Should I?

"Thunderface" (thunderface) 01/14/2015 at 10:50 • Filed to: first car, kijiji

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I am starting to seriously consider grabbing this for $3k. Low kms and pretty clean, it seems like a good first car to me. It may be beige, but it has lots of potential...

Should I?

2004 Ford Crown Victoria LX Sedan

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ly2v8-Brian > Thunderface 01/14/2015 at 10:55

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how's the insurance?

Rock Bottom > Thunderface 01/14/2015 at 10:57

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Do it. Throw a few bags of sand in the trunk to drive it in the winter and you'll have the perfect first car! Super reliable, you can fit tons of your friends in it, and insurance will probably be cheap as dirt.

For Sweden > Thunderface 01/14/2015 at 11:11

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We've been over this. The answer is oui.

Thunderface > For Sweden 01/14/2015 at 11:12

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J'essaierai

Thunderface > ly2v8-Brian 01/14/2015 at 11:13

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Not bad

MIATAAAA > Thunderface 01/14/2015 at 11:14

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SUPER PROPRE! Oui 100% achet.

FJ80WaitinForaLSV8 > Thunderface 01/14/2015 at 11:16

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You wont regret it - Panther for life.

ly2v8-Brian > Thunderface 01/14/2015 at 11:17

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if you can afford it then see if you can test drive it.

Alex B > Thunderface 01/14/2015 at 11:19

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Do it!

Funktheduck > Thunderface 01/14/2015 at 11:22

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Short answer: yes

Thunderface > Funktheduck 01/14/2015 at 11:25

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Long answer?

Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage > Thunderface 01/14/2015 at 11:38

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If that's what you want, I'd definitely go for it. You're not going to find a nicer one at that price. I'd at least go take a look at it.

crowmolly > Thunderface 01/14/2015 at 11:42

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Inspect the undercarriage first.

If it's as good as up top I'd say it's a no-brainer.

Thunderface > crowmolly 01/14/2015 at 11:43

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For rust?

crowmolly > Thunderface 01/14/2015 at 11:46

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Rust, corrosion, anything that's far out of sorts. Surface rust and so on isn't an issue, but rot on load bearing stuff or suspension parts is very bad.

With modern rustproofing I wouldn't expect much but you never know.

Justin Hughes > Thunderface 01/14/2015 at 11:49

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Sure, why not? Get some snow tires and go to town. If that's not good enough for winter performance, replace the open diff with an LSD that was available on P71s. If it's too cushy for you, swap in a P71 suspension. If it's too quiet, slap on a Flowmaster. Trust me, it sounds great.

My point is, it sounds like this is the car you want, and it's in good shape, so go for it. It's probably better for you to maybe throw some P71 parts at a civilian car than to throw civilian parts at a P71.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Thunderface 01/14/2015 at 12:00

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I missed responding to this earlier, because I only just thought to mention: if there are some front end squeaks, you may be due a couple of new parts. That could include ball joints. It's not uncommon for one of these to need a pretty hefty front end teardown past 100,000 miles, though since this one is well below that and in the Great White North it may not be due for a while. When you *do* come due, the parts are fairly cheap.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > crowmolly 01/14/2015 at 12:01

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He might also be due ball joints or a relay arm or tie rod end or two. These are prone to that, a bit.

youshiftem > Thunderface 01/14/2015 at 12:21

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What about something a little more awesome that's easier and cheaper to fix?

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars…

Thunderface > youshiftem 01/14/2015 at 12:33

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But CVs ARE awesome....

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > Thunderface 01/14/2015 at 12:35

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Prepare for your friends to begin calling you "Grandpa"

daender > Thunderface 01/14/2015 at 12:37

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It's not a bad first car, just remember it's gonna go through gas with 15/23 mpg. Totally swap in Police Interceptor suspension, heads (4V vs 2V), and rear-end for the start of a shenanigans sleeper.

Thunderface > youshiftem 01/14/2015 at 12:38

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But CVs ARE awesome and easy and cheap to fix...

Funktheduck > Thunderface 01/14/2015 at 12:39

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Looks like a good price. I didn't go into the listing too much but it looks clean and in good condition. They're very reliable and even when they do break parts are widely available and cheap.

I think you're the one who said you'll be doing a decent amount of highway driving. 50/50? May be thinking of someone else. These types of cars are great highway cruisers. They won't get the fuel economy of a corolla or even my new mazda3 but they're great for soaking up miles. I had a GS300 (longer wheelbase, rwd, built for comfort). I'll take that recipe any day for driving long distances.

Lots of room for stuff so if you want to go on a trip with yourself or friends plenty of room for people and things and still be comfortable.

There are even upgrades available to make it suit your tastes. Or you can customize like Jake the Murdersofa guy.

If you're worried about snow, don't be. A good set of tires and a little extra weight in the trunk and you'll be good to go. I'm a southerner and we rarely get snow but we have gotten some decent stuff a few times and I've driven fwd and rwd cars. Tires are the biggest help.

To sum up:

Cheap to buy, maintain, and fix.

Not as good on gas as a more modern car but won't kill you either

Comfortable and roomy

Customizable and upgradable.

Thunderface > Funktheduck 01/14/2015 at 12:44

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yes, I'm the 50/50 guy

youshiftem > Thunderface 01/14/2015 at 12:45

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But RWD MCs are MORE awesome and MORE easy and cheap to fix!

Thunderface > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 01/14/2015 at 12:45

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As long as it's not in a weird way

Thunderface > youshiftem 01/14/2015 at 12:48

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Yeah..................no

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > Thunderface 01/14/2015 at 12:56

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Is there any other way?

Thunderface > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 01/14/2015 at 12:58

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..............

MM54 > Thunderface 01/14/2015 at 17:42

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Yes. Get it.

'04 is the year to have, too - updated suspension, slightly different intake (at least on the PIs, not sure about civilian ones), and NOT drive-by-wire!

Schaefft > Thunderface 01/14/2015 at 17:44

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yes

Thunderface > MM54 01/14/2015 at 21:48

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I followed you, so you shouldn't be grey on Oppo anymore

MM54 > Thunderface 01/15/2015 at 19:10

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Awesome, thanks!